6. Jesus and Francis
The Teacher sat among the multitude. He preached, he healed, he multiplied the food. And yet he was, for all his wondrous skills, A homeless man and prone to solitude. The pupil served in towns and in...
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Hi, Jose I'm cruising through this from lines 1 to 8. Line 8 is funny, in context. In lines 9 and 10, your meter is well and truly stuffed. I read and hear 12 syllables in line 9. I scan line 10 as:...
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Hi Jose, I agree with Chris. My main problem is that I am not challenged--it is a familiar complaint at the end and your Jesus and Francis are right out of central casting. There is something about...
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I suggest looking at examples of contemporary formal poets who have written about religious figures. One of the most effective ways to do a fresh take on Jesus is to look through the eyes of a...
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yolhanson wrote: Hi, Jose I'm cruising through this from lines 1 to 8. Line 8 is funny, in context. yeah, it's funny but there's nothing wrong with it. although both jesus and francis lived centuries...
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So, Jose, just to clarify: The sonnets written in response to critique--are we supposed to critique these sonnets as well, or are they intended as more of a "Hallmark moment", a little thank-you note?...
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@ yolhanson: we are debating here fundamental principles of the sonnet. william shakespeare described and prophesied the sonnet as a "powerful rhyme" and i believe the full meaning of that description...
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i don't see how we can lift up this art if we only want free shots for ourselves but whine when others can argue as strongly as we do. Jose, this is so not the point. Who is taking "free shots"? Who...
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There's also a secret competition at work--whoever most eloquently defends his/her poem loses. I suppose I'm a born loser. they can all win everytime. I am content to eloquently argue and defend my...
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jrmr, As poets we are required, not to defend and argue our poetic vision but rather improve it. This is one reason for participating on boards such as this. I was inclined to offer a critique on your...
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mike mckay wrote: jrmr, As poets we are required, not to defend and argue our poetic vision but rather improve it. maybe that's true in your case. but it would be arrogant for a poet to speak in...
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I'm getting tired of the attitude, jose. These people are paying you the compliment of being honest, & you call it "a free shot." Bogus. This is just one of the points in your argument that...
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If you need an essay to defend your poem and make sure we get the message, what is the point of the poem? Just write the essay.
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It is many months since I have looked at these sonnet boards - so little time to do what "I want" rather than what "I should." As part of my "rehabilitation" here I have been reading many sonnets plus...
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I think Jose is toast as far as this board is concerned, David, and good riddance.
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